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kenfury



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:16 am    Post subject: Submit Your CMD.PHP vs. CACTID Metrics Here Reply with quote

What a change. I ran cmd.php every 60 seconds and I was getting into 40 second range for the scripts to run. Now I am down to 2.3-2.7 seconds with cactid. Quick specs...

Network Devices
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24 Cisco 3600 with 4 interfaces
1 Cisco 7200 with over 40 interfaces
3 Cisco 3550 12 interfaces
5 Cisco 3750 48 interfaces
48 Printers
10 servers (just Eth monitoring)

The Server
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IBM 335
Dual 2.4 Xeon
1 gig ram
U160 SCSI
Fedora Core1
Cactid 8.6d
cmd.php 8.6c

Cmd.php was running in the 2.8 to 3.4 load range for 5 min avg. Now with cactid I am running in the .5 to.7 range. cactid is running 2 threads vs 8 poller process with cmd.php. What a great upgrade.
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Mikf



Joined: 13 Aug 2004
Posts: 36
Location: Paris, France

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

here my test :
01/27/2005 07:50:16 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 15.5160 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 8, Threads: 8, Hosts: 162, Hosts/Process: 21
01/27/2005 07:45:17 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 15.1279 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 8, Threads: 8, Hosts: 162, Hosts/Process: 21
01/27/2005 07:40:19 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 17.1653 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 8, Threads: 8, Hosts: 162, Hosts/Process: 21
01/27/2005 07:35:24 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 22.8908 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 8, Threads: 8, Hosts: 162, Hosts/Process: 21
01/27/2005 07:31:17 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 75.8915 s, Method: cmd.php, Processes: 8, Threads: N/A, Hosts: 162, Hosts/Process: 21
01/27/2005 07:25:50 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 49.4887 s, Method: cmd.php, Processes: 8, Threads: N/A, Hosts: 162, Hosts/Process: 21
01/27/2005 07:20:48 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 46.9298 s, Method: cmd.php, Processes: 8, Threads: N/A, Hosts: 162, Hosts/Process: 21
01/27/2005 07:16:00 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 59.3676 s, Method: cmd.php, Processes: 8, Threads: N/A, Hosts: 162, Hosts/Process: 21



for 162 hosts (2829 data sources)
(routers, filers, caches, firewalls, windows, linux, solaris)

IBM Bi-Xeon 2.8Ghz
1G RAM

cacti 0.8.6c
cactid 0.8.6d

edit : new stats
03/02/2005 10:15:56 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 54.2769 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 1, Threads: 64, Hosts: 227, Hosts/Process: 227
03/02/2005 10:11:04 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 63.4464 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 1, Threads: 64, Hosts: 227, Hosts/Process: 227
03/02/2005 10:06:09 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 68.1267 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 1, Threads: 64, Hosts: 227, Hosts/Process: 227
03/02/2005 10:01:19 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 78.2936 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 1, Threads: 64, Hosts: 227, Hosts/Process: 227


Last edited by Mikf on Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:19 am; edited 1 time in total
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TheWitness
Developer


Joined: 14 May 2002
Posts: 9723
Location: MI, USA

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, here are some production numbers:

Dell PowerEdge 6350
Quad Xenon 550
2 GBytes RAM
(Old Horse)

> 178 Hosts
> 5000 Data Sources
> Mixture of SNMPv1 and SNMPv2 Devices

CMD.PHP
8 Processes, Average: 160 Seconds

CACTID
4 Processes, 8 Threads Each, Average 40 Seconds
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Ev
Cacti User


Joined: 25 Jan 2005
Posts: 104

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun Ultra 60 (2* USparc 440 Mhz) 1 G ram. Under heavy load (another monitoring program + old rrd).

62 hosts, ~670 data sources.

4* cmd.php - 200..240 sec.
1* cactid * 5 threads - 28..40 sec.

78 hosts with cactid - same time, 30..40 sec.

Can anyone wrote about it's stability of Cactid under Solaris (and under other Unix) ?
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gandalf
Developer


Joined: 02 Dec 2004
Posts: 12295
Location: Muenster, Germany

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IBM Dual Xeon
RH Linux
Cactid 8.6d
cacti 0.8.6c

About 17 to 18 sec. for cactid, 2 Processes, 8 Threads, 133 Hosts, 1390 rrds. Cactid seems to be about 6 times faster than cmd.php.
The above contains some dozen data sources that are queried using perl scripts parsing html output (apache stats and so on)
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aaa111



Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:12 am    Post subject: Re: >> Submit Your CMD.PHP vs. CACTID Metrics Here Reply with quote

SYSTEM STATS: Time: 250.9287 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 2, Hosts: 62, Hosts/Process: 31
# ls -1 rra/ | wc -l
2286

FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #6
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2392.29-MHz 686-class CPU)
real memory = 1073676288 (1023 MB)
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TheWitness
Developer


Joined: 14 May 2002
Posts: 9723
Location: MI, USA

PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaa111,

Increase your thread count to 10 and repost.

TheWitness
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aaa111



Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheWitness wrote:
aaa111,

Increase your thread count to 10 and repost.

TheWitness


about system: virtual host, based on jail.
load averages: 7,41 4,38 3,80


before:
03/02/2005 08:54:08 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 247.5776 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 2, Hosts: 62, Hosts/Process: 31
03/02/2005 08:59:34 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 273.4089 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 2, Hosts: 62, Hosts/Process: 31
03/02/2005 09:04:21 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 260.9941 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 2, Hosts: 62, Hosts/Process: 31
03/02/2005 09:09:33 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 272.8332 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 2, Hosts: 62, Hosts/Process: 31

after:
03/02/2005 09:14:27 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 267.1197 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 10, Hosts: 62, Hosts/Process: 31
03/02/2005 09:19:49 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 287.9956 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 10, Hosts: 62, Hosts/Process: 31
03/02/2005 09:24:37 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 276.7104 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 10, Hosts: 62, Hosts/Process: 31
03/02/2005 09:29:52 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 291.8246 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 10, Hosts: 62, Hosts/Process: 31

PS: cacti has tools for profiling ?
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Ev
Cacti User


Joined: 25 Jan 2005
Posts: 104

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaa111 wrote:
TheWitness wrote:
aaa111,

Increase your thread count to 10 and repost.

TheWitness


about system: virtual host, based on jail.
load averages: 7,41 4,38 3,80

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

high load.
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Mikf



Joined: 13 Aug 2004
Posts: 36
Location: Paris, France

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:17 am    Post subject: to increase the speed Reply with quote

aaa111,

try with /usr/local/share/snmp/mibs empty. (or the good path to the mibs files of net-snmp)

- mikf
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carcass



Joined: 02 Jan 2005
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

P4 2.4 without HyperThreading

cactid one a minute:
03/10/2005 06:01:08 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 7.4417 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 5, Threads: 10, Hosts: 63, Hosts/Process: 13
03/10/2005 06:02:05 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 4.9023 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 5, Threads: 10, Hosts: 63, Hosts/Process: 13
03/10/2005 06:03:05 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 4.8770 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 5, Threads: 10, Hosts: 63, Hosts/Process: 13
03/10/2005 06:04:06 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 5.1839 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 5, Threads: 10, Hosts: 63, Hosts/Process: 13

all devices are cisco catalysts. 1251 rrds.

03/10/2005 06:08:27 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 26.7298 s, Method: cmd.php, Processes: 5, Threads: N/A, Hosts: 63, Hosts/Process: 13
03/10/2005 06:09:25 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 25.7774 s, Method: cmd.php, Processes: 5, Threads: N/A, Hosts: 63, Hosts/Process: 13

turning on 28 ZYXEL dslams:

cactid
03/10/2005 06:18:18 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 17.7232 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 5, Threads: 10, Hosts: 91, Hosts/Process: 19
03/10/2005 06:19:17 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 17.1713 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 5, Threads: 10, Hosts: 91, Hosts/Process: 19

cmd.php
03/10/2005 06:32:55 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 51.0815 s, Method: cmd.php, Processes: 5, Threads: N/A, Hosts: 91, Hosts/Process: 19
03/10/2005 06:33:48 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 47.9127 s, Method: cmd.php, Processes: 5, Threads: N/A, Hosts: 91, Hosts/Process: 19

3000 rrds now
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Rossco
Cacti User


Joined: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 74
Location: London, England

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:25 pm    Post subject: cacti speeds Reply with quote

Never got cmd.php to work for some reason, but these are my stats using cactid on a dual 2.8Ghz(with Hyperthreading) with 1GB RAM(windows2k).

Majority of these are Cisco routers and switches across 34 sites polling every 5 mins, approx 50 windows boxes. Total of 12,210 seperate rrds/datasources.


3/15/2005 10:11:31 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 91.0645 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 25, Hosts: 346,Hosts/Process: 173
03/15/2005 10:07:32 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 151.8085 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 25, Hosts: 346, Hosts/Process: 173
03/15/2005 10:01:39 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 99.5154 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 25, Hosts: 346, Hosts/Process: 173
03/15/2005 09:56:31 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 90.8879 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 25, Hosts: 346, Hosts/Process: 173
03/15/2005 09:51:31 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 91.3955 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 2, Threads: 25, Hosts: 346, Hosts/Process: 173

Kind regards
Ross
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ssams
Cacti User


Joined: 01 Feb 2005
Posts: 65
Location: Texas

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 thread
03/21/2005 01:31:40 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 100.7504 s, Method: cactid, Processes:
1, Threads: 1, Hosts: 90, Hosts/Process: 90

10 threads
03/21/2005 01:35:23 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 22.5106 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 1, Threads: 10, Hosts: 90, Hosts/Process: 90


cmd was failing on max time.

approximately 2000 rras and growing. will probably hit 10000 when i am done.
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fmangeant
Cacti Guru User


Joined: 19 Sep 2003
Posts: 2325
Location: Sophia-Antipolis, France

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all

I changed this morning from Cacti 0.8.6c cmd.php (20 pollers) :
Code:
04/04/2005 09:47:50 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 169.9051 s, Method: cmd.php, Processes: 20, Threads: N/A, Hosts: 537, Hosts/Process: 27

to Cacti 0.8.6c + cactid 0.8.6d (4 pollers w/ 15 threads) :
Code:
04/04/2005 11:25:56 AM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 44.6722 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 4, Threads: 15, Hosts: 537, Hosts/Process: 108

Total of 6000 rras (SNMP and Nagios, on Unix/NT hosts).

Here's an update, after 3 months running cactid :
Code:
07/04/2005 03:46:11 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 69.4416 s, Method: cactid, Processes: 4, Threads: 15, Hosts: 567, Hosts/Process: 142, Data Sources 7879, RRDs Processed 6042

I'm now having 7500 rras.


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Kap



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

04/06/2005 12:12:50 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time: 50.1300 s, Method: cmd.php, Processes: 4, Threads: N/A, Hosts: 112, Hosts/Process: 29

04/06/2005 12:37:07 PM - CACTID: Poller[0] Time: 7.3960 s, Threads: 4, Hosts: 29


112 Devices
2832 Data Sources
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