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 Post subject: Spine 0.8.7d-pre3 Available for Testing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:36 pm 
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The SNMPv3 issue should now be resolved. In addition, the segmentation faults during reindex checks should also be resolved. Please provide feedback. I recommend that you use nifty-popen if you are using scripts.

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 Post subject: works for me
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I can confirm that this resolves the problems I was seeing with the SNMPv3 timeouts and putting my config in /etc/cacti. Thanks for the help!


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I'm still having problem with sSpine 0.8.7d-pre3. Here is the error

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04/10/2009 09:00:01 AM - POLLER: Poller[0] Maximum runtime of 58 seconds exceeded. Exiting.
04/10/2009 09:00:01 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] FATAL: Spine Encountered a Segmentation Fault (Spine parent)
04/10/2009 09:00:01 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] FATAL: Spine Encountered a Segmentation Fault (Spine parent)
04/10/2009 08:59:02 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] FATAL: Spine Encountered a Segmentation Fault (Spine parent)
04/10/2009 08:59:02 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] FATAL: Spine Encountered a Segmentation Fault (Spine parent)



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Date Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:06:08 +0700
Cacti Version 0.8.7d
Cacti OS unix
SNMP Version NET-SNMP version: 5.3.1 
RRDTool Version RRDTool 1.2.x 
Hosts 97
Graphs 305
Data Sources Script/Command: 17
SNMP: 48
SNMP Query: 206
Script - Script Server (PHP): 4
Total: 275
Poller Information
Interval 60
Type spine
Items Action[0]: 278
Action[1]: 17
Action[2]: 4
Total: 299
Concurrent Processes 2
Max Threads 20
PHP Servers 6
Script Timeout 25
Max OID 10
Last Run Statistics Time:58.5435 Method:spine Processes:2 Threads:20 Hosts:98 HostsPerProcess:49 DataSources:279 RRDsProcessed:0
PHP Information
PHP Version 5.2.8
PHP OS Linux
PHP uname Linux mrtg.sldm.net 2.6.18-1.2798.fc6 #1 SMP Mon Oct 16 14:39:22 EDT 2006 x86_64
PHP SNMP Installed
max_execution_time 30
memory_limit 1024M


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:32 am 
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This looks like a simple bug during shutdown.

I will pm you.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:49 am 
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I am getting "ERROR: Problems parsing Multi SNMP OID! (oid: )" with this new version, and was getting it occasionally with spine .8.7.c, but now almost every polling cycle.

I ran php -q rebuild_poller_cache.php after stopping the poller for a few cycles, but the problem popped back up after I restarted the poller.


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You have a bad oid for the host in question. If you turn logging to medium that should show you the culprit.

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Well... logging it did expose it, but it doesn't explain why I'm getting the error:

04/10/2009 11:45:10 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] Host[388] DS[15582] SS[3] SERVER: /data/cacti/scripts/ss_fping.php ss_fping 10.249.1.111 20 ICMP , output: min:0.9220 avg:1.0037 max:1.5370 dev:0.1325 loss:0.0000
04/10/2009 11:45:10 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] Host[388] ERROR: Problems parsing Multi SNMP OID! (oid: )

I use the same template for literally hundreds of the same device type, and none of them are returning errors.

I'm getting graphs for that device, which is strange if there is an OID issue.

Could there be an error in the DB or something else going on?


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dononeil wrote:
Well... logging it did expose it, but it doesn't explain why I'm getting the error:

04/10/2009 11:45:10 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] Host[388] DS[15582] SS[3] SERVER: /data/cacti/scripts/ss_fping.php ss_fping 10.249.1.111 20 ICMP , output: min:0.9220 avg:1.0037 max:1.5370 dev:0.1325 loss:0.0000
04/10/2009 11:45:10 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] Host[388] ERROR: Problems parsing Multi SNMP OID! (oid: )

I use the same template for literally hundreds of the same device type, and none of them are returning errors.

I'm getting graphs for that device, which is strange if there is an OID issue.

Could there be an error in the DB or something else going on?


The two messages have nothing in common. What that error message means is that you have an snmp_get request that has no OID associated with it. I have changed the logging just a bit to help people with this error message in the future.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:23 pm 
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I got a random seg fault in my logs.

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04/16/2009 02:17:38 PM - SYSTEM THOLD STATS: Time:0.9653 Tholds:18 Hosts:0
04/16/2009 02:18:06 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time:4.5604 Method:spine Processes:4 Threads:10 Hosts:79 HostsPerProcess:20 DataSources:2481 RRDsProcessed:1380
04/16/2009 02:18:06 PM - SYSTEM THOLD STATS: Time:0.1270 Tholds:18 Hosts:0
04/16/2009 02:18:36 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time:4.6509 Method:spine Processes:4 Threads:10 Hosts:79 HostsPerProcess:20 DataSources:2481 RRDsProcessed:1380
04/16/2009 02:18:36 PM - SYSTEM THOLD STATS: Time:0.1240 Tholds:18 Hosts:0
04/16/2009 02:19:06 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time:4.5960 Method:spine Processes:4 Threads:10 Hosts:79 HostsPerProcess:20 DataSources:2481 RRDsProcessed:1380
04/16/2009 02:19:06 PM - SYSTEM THOLD STATS: Time:0.1284 Tholds:18 Hosts:0
04/16/2009 02:19:32 PM - SPINE: Poller[0] FATAL: Spine Encountered a Segmentation Fault (Spine thread)
04/16/2009 02:20:00 PM - POLLER: Poller[0] Maximum runtime of 58 seconds exceeded. Exiting.
04/16/2009 02:20:00 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time:28.1395 Method:spine Processes:4 Threads:10 Hosts:79 HostsPerProcess:20 DataSources:2481 RRDsProcessed:1063
04/16/2009 02:20:00 PM - SYSTEM THOLD STATS: Time:0.1181 Tholds:18 Hosts:0
04/16/2009 02:20:01 PM - SPINE: Poller[0] FATAL: Spine Encountered a Segmentation Fault (Spine thread)
04/16/2009 02:21:00 PM - POLLER: Poller[0] Maximum runtime of 58 seconds exceeded. Exiting.
04/16/2009 02:21:00 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time:59.3243 Method:spine Processes:4 Threads:10 Hosts:79 HostsPerProcess:20 DataSources:2481 RRDsProcessed:1069
04/16/2009 02:21:01 PM - POLLER: Poller[0] Maximum runtime of 58 seconds exceeded. Exiting.
04/16/2009 02:21:01 PM - SYSTEM STATS: Time:0.4463 Method:spine Processes:4 Threads:10 Hosts:79 HostsPerProcess:20 DataSources:2481 RRDsProcessed:0
04/16/2009 02:21:01 PM - SYSTEM THOLD STATS: Time:0.4547 Tholds:18 Hosts:0


I'll start paying closer attention to this.

Cacti Version 0.8.7d
Cacti OS unix
SNMP Version NET-SNMP version: 5.3.2.2
RRDTool Version RRDTool 1.2.x
Hosts 78
Graphs 1261
Data Sources Script/Command: 6
SNMP: 234
SNMP Query: 1101
Script - Script Server (PHP): 39
Total: 1380
PHP Version 5.2.5
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What's your poller interval. It looks like 30 seconds.

What happens if you cd to the source directory, put your spine.conf there, run

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This particular server does 30 second intervals.

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GNU gdb Fedora (6.8-27.el5)
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License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
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This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux-gnu"...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/local/src/cacti-spine-0.8.7d-pre3/spine
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
SPINE: Using spine config file [spine.conf]
[New Thread 0xb7ff1b80 (LWP 4790)]
SPINE: Version 0.8.7d-pre3 starting
Detaching after fork from child process 4793.
Detaching after fork from child process 4794.
Detaching after fork from child process 4795.
Detaching after fork from child process 4796.
[New Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4797)]
[New Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4798)]
[New Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4799)]
[New Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4800)]
[New Thread 0xb55ebb90 (LWP 4801)]
[New Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4803)]
[New Thread 0xb3ffeb90 (LWP 4805)]
[New Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4806)]
[New Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4808)]
[New Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4810)]
[New Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4812)]
[Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4798) exited]
[Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4797) exited]
[New Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4814)]
[New Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4816)]
[Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4806) exited]
[Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4799) exited]
[New Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4817)]
[Thread 0xb3ffeb90 (LWP 4805) exited]
[New Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4818)]
[Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4803) exited]
[New Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4819)]
[Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4800) exited]
[New Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4820)]
[Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4816) exited]
[New Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4821)]
[Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4817) exited]
[Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4812) exited]
[New Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4822)]
[New Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4823)]
[Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4814) exited]
[Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4808) exited]
[Thread 0xb55ebb90 (LWP 4801) exited]
[New Thread 0xb55ebb90 (LWP 4824)]
[New Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4825)]
[New Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4826)]
[Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4810) exited]
[Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4818) exited]
[New Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4827)]
[New Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4828)]
[Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4819) exited]
[New Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4829)]
[Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4822) exited]
[New Thread 0xb3ffeb90 (LWP 4830)]
[Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4820) exited]
[New Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4831)]
[Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4829) exited]
[New Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4832)]
[Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4823) exited]
[New Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4833)]
[Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4821) exited]
[Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4828) exited]
[New Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4834)]
[New Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4835)]
[Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4825) exited]
[Thread 0xb55ebb90 (LWP 4824) exited]
[New Thread 0xb55ebb90 (LWP 4836)]
[New Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4837)]
[Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4835) exited]
[New Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4838)]
[Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4826) exited]
[New Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4839)]
[Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4838) exited]
[Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4831) exited]
[New Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4840)]
[New Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4841)]
[Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4827) exited]
[Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4832) exited]
[New Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4842)]
[Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4837) exited]
[New Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4843)]
[New Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4844)]
[Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4833) exited]
[Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4834) exited]
[New Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4845)]
[Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4839) exited]
[New Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4846)]
[New Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4847)]
[Thread 0xb3ffeb90 (LWP 4830) exited]
[Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4840) exited]
[New Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4848)]
[New Thread 0xb3ffeb90 (LWP 4849)]
[Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4841) exited]
[Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4845) exited]
[New Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4850)]
[New Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4851)]
[Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4847) exited]
[New Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4853)]
[Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4846) exited]
[Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4844) exited]
[Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4843) exited]
[New Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4854)]
[New Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4855)]
[New Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4856)]
[Thread 0xb55ebb90 (LWP 4836) exited]
[Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4842) exited]
[New Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4857)]
[Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4851) exited]
[New Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4858)]
[New Thread 0xb55ebb90 (LWP 4859)]
[Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4855) exited]
[Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4853) exited]
[New Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4860)]
[New Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4861)]
[Thread 0xb3ffeb90 (LWP 4849) exited]
[Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4848) exited]
[Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4857) exited]
[Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4850) exited]
[Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4856) exited]
[Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4854) exited]
[New Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4863)]
[New Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4864)]
[New Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4865)]
[New Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4866)]
[New Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4867)]
[New Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4868)]
[Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4860) exited]
[New Thread 0xb3ffeb90 (LWP 4869)]
[Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4865) exited]
[New Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4870)]
[New Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4871)]
[Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4858) exited]
[Thread 0xb55ebb90 (LWP 4859) exited]
[New Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4872)]
[Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4861) exited]
[New Thread 0xb55ebb90 (LWP 4873)]
[Thread 0xb3ffeb90 (LWP 4869) exited]
[Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4863) exited]
[New Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4874)]
[New Thread 0xb3ffeb90 (LWP 4875)]
[New Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4876)]
[Thread 0xb55ebb90 (LWP 4873) exited]
[Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4867) exited]
[Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4868) exited]
[Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4864) exited]
[Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4866) exited]
[New Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4877)]
[Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4871) exited]
[New Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4878)]
[New Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4879)]
[New Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4880)]
[New Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4881)]
[Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4872) exited]
[New Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4882)]
[Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4874) exited]
[Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4876) exited]
[New Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4883)]
[New Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4884)]
[Thread 0xb5fecb90 (LWP 4870) exited]
[Thread 0xb3ffeb90 (LWP 4875) exited]
[Thread 0xb73eeb90 (LWP 4881) exited]
[Thread 0xb17fab90 (LWP 4877) exited]
Detaching after fork from child process 4885.
[Thread 0xb2bfcb90 (LWP 4879) exited]
[Thread 0xb69edb90 (LWP 4880) exited]
[Thread 0xb35fdb90 (LWP 4878) exited]
[Thread 0xb21fbb90 (LWP 4882) exited]
Detaching after fork from child process 4886.
Detaching after fork from child process 4887.
[Thread 0xb49ffb90 (LWP 4883) exited]
Detaching after fork from child process 4888.
Detaching after fork from child process 4889.
Detaching after fork from child process 4890.
[Thread 0xb7defb90 (LWP 4884) exited]
SPINE: Time: 3.3726 s, Threads: 10, Hosts: 79

Program exited normally.
(gdb)


Since it doesn't seg fault every time I'm guessing I'd have to catch it in the act for this to be of any use to you.


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Can you setup a test for me. Create some random hosts.

1, bad ip address, UDP ping
2, bad ip address, TCP ping
3, bad ip address, ICMP ping
4, bad dns (three tests above)

See if any of these test cases make hung worse.

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I created the test cases w/ the bad IPs and ran spine. Out of 10 executions spine only hung once. I'm in the process of re-creating the cases w/ bad DNS.


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Here is an example of the timeouts


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Same result w/ the the devices having a bad dns record.

Hung once out of 10 tries.


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